At this point I feel I can finally give a detailed and objective review of PPC Classroom 2.0. So let’s get going…
PPC Classroom 2.0
Let me start with the recommendation: For only $6.97 ($9.97 outside the US), I feel that PPC Classroom 2.0 is excellent value for anyone who wants to give pay-per-click affiliate marketing a try. The basic lifetime membership has a lot of detailed material that I think most people will find useful. Even I learned some things, and I’ve actually done a lot of pay-per-click. The information in the basic 9-module course is better that most affiliate marketing ebooks I’ve read, and quite detailed. (I think the only ebook that I’d consider to be of comparable quality is Beating AdWords.)
There are some downsides to joining PPC Classroom 2.0, though:
- You can only pay by credit card, not PayPal.
- You must subscribe to a continuity program that will charge you $97/month starting one month after you join — so you have to remember to cancel it before the first 30 days are up to avoid being charged anything.
- You must endure several different upsells if all you want is the basic membership.
Perhaps the biggest disappointment was pointed out to me by a reader of this blog: access to the “PPC Insider Club” forum is restricted until after you make the first $97 payment. This goes directly against what the sales page says: A 30 Day Free Look at the PPC Inner Circle – The advanced 7 figure super affiliate secrets I won’t see anywhere else. After 30 days, it’s only $97 per month and I can cancel anytime from my PPC Classroom student page. I’ve sent in a question about this, I hope it’s an oversight on their part. If it’s not, they should take out the free trial promise. The content is still well worth the $7 fee, but I was hoping to check out the PPC Inner Circle as well.
The Essential Training Modules
The 9 “essential” training modules that I listed yesterday are the heart of the PPC Classroom system. The modules are all high-quality, well-edited (just found a few mistakes here and there, mostly dropped letters) and many include detailed videos that show how to do things.
The module on setting up your AdWords campaigns, for example, has several videos that show you how to use Microsoft Excel to take a keyword list and transform it into a set of AdWords ad groups reader for importing into your AdWords account via Google’s own AdWords Editor software. Videos are a great way to do this because they show you exactly which menu items to use, what to fill in the various dialogs, etc., so you can easily follow along on your own computer. (It’s best to watch a video once or twice in its entirety before trying it out yourself. If you have dual screens or two computers, it’s also easier to run the video on one screen and try things out live on the other.)
Note that the essential training assumes you have some knowledge of what AdWords is, how affiliate marketing works, etc. If you’re a complete newbie, there are additional modules available to bring you up to speed, but they’re more like appendices to the real material.
Almost everything described in the 9 essential modules can be done for free. There are some Excel macros that they recommend you purchase, and also a subscription to a keyword competition tool, but for the most part everything is done using free tools. And you can get away without using the paid tools if you’re willing to spend more time on things.
I’m not a spreadsheet guy, so to me one of the most useful things was seeing how to manipulate keyword lists with Excel, although I must admit I’m tempted to write a tool to do all (or most) of that manipulation.
Tools
PPC Classroom 2.0 includes a number of online tools to help you automate some mundane PPC tasks:
- Keyword List Cleaner — helps you massage your keyword list by removing duplicates, filtering out unwanted keywords, etc.
- Google Match Type Tool — to take a keyword list and create broad, exact, and phrase matching variants of the keywords, including negative matches if appropriate.
- Key Phrase Multipler — takes lists of keywords (up to 3 lists) and generates all logical combinations of keyword phrases.
- AdWords Ad Writing Tool — a simple but cool tool that helps you come up with better AdWords ads (always the hard part for me!). Has pre-canned “fill in the blanks” headlines, descriptions, and lists of “power words”.
- Typo Generator — expands a keyword list by generating different kind of common user typing errors.
- PPC ROI Calculator — a very simple tool to calculate the return on investment (ROI) of your AdWords spending. (Not very sophisticated… you can easily do this yourself with a calculator.)
- Long Tail Keyword Generator — a cool tool that lets you prefix or suffix a keyword with various different keyword lists (major US cities, US states, a few others) to create “long tail” variants of the keyword.
- Geo Keywords — another long tail generator that works with various geographical terms.
Webinars
Also included in PPC Classroom 2.0 is access to just over a dozen webinars on various affiliate marketing and PPC topics.
Bonuses
I listed the bonuses yesterday as well. The first one, the 6 affiliate page templates, is what interested me the most. I was pleasantly surprised to discover that the templates are usable, modern HTML with CSS style sheets, not some Microsoft Word-generated garbage that makes me puke.
Some of the other bonuses are useful, too. There are some graphics in the graphics pack that I don’t have, for example. And the free Excel macro lets you do many of the same tasks as the paid third-party macro mentioned above.
Niche Detective
The “Niche Detective Club” is a $20/month upsell that I accepted just to see what it was about. Each month, members who selected this option get research for 3 niches. The first month’s niches are fat loss, panic attacks and tattoos, which are all niches I’ve seen described before. Each niche comes with a document that explains why the niche is good, gives recommendations as to which affiliate products to promote and how to promote them (i.e. search network or content network), a bunch of videos showing how they did the niche research, and a broad list of keywords related to the niche.
Is this stuff useful? Only if you do something with it, but it seems like a good starting point. It’s too bad, though, they don’t also subdivide the keyword lists into theme groups, would make advertising on the Google content network (AdSense sites) a bit easier.
Final Analysis
Well, you already know my recommendation: if any of the above seems useful to you, grab your “free” PPC Classroom membership quickly before they decide to stop letting people in. Apparently over 6500 people have signed up for membership so far. Of course, I’m expecting to see a huge drop-off in those numbers by the end of the first month, as I only expect a small percentage of those to sign up for the $97/month program. I wish I could see what’s in the PPC Inner Circle to tell you if it’s worth $97/month or not, but I won’t know until a month from now, if I don’t opt-out before then.
As a member of the first phase of PPCClassroom 2.0 – yes I paid for it.
I can tell you that the essential modules are good, but I learned more during the 10th and 12th module… (I pay 29.99/mo) I don’t have a clue what the PPC Inner Circle is either since the support tickets I have sent in haven’t been answered. It’s good info, but the business structure needs some tweaking as a lot of members didn’t feel like they were being efficiently helped and taken care of.
Great review Eric – I appreciate your honesty and your willingness to provide value to your readers.
C.
When you say “first phase”, are you referring to the original PPC Classroom, i.e. 1.0? I’d be curious to know what the differences are, as I never looked at that when it came out. If I recall correctly, wasn’t there a big upfront fee?
Eric
I pay $29.99 a month too and it’s for PPL Classroom 2.0, not 1.0. It was launched at the back-end of last year and I think the upfront fee might have been $77 but no more than that.
The niches you’re getting in Niche Detective are the same ones that I got last year … I paid for 3 months and then cancelled that subscription (an additional $19.99 a month).
I paid for the DVD because I wanted some bonuses that a marketer was giving which were worth far more than $9.97 to me. I understand that if I give up my $29.99 membership I still get access to everything I’ve paid for so far, except the Tools and access to the forum. And to be honest, if you’re not a “VIP Member” (no idea how the Inner Circle compares with this, but VIP Membership currently costs a lot more), you don’t get that much help on the forum.
One thing that did rankle from the promotion is that they say you can hang out with the insiders on the forum, the ones who are making the money – but as far as I know, those people are not being paid to help the new members. They’re regular forum members who pay for their membership like anyone else so why should they spend their time helping new members?
Neither of the principals ever appears on the forum (not that we were told they would do) and apparently there are top-level coaches for the VIP Members, but whether the Inner Circle members have access to those same coaches isn’t clear either. I’m not sure what the Inner Circle IS, if it’s not the forum.
It’s all a bit confusing really. I’m not convinced that people paying $97 a month are going to get any more than those of us paying $29.99.
Interesting! Somehow I missed the fact that this was a re-launch of an existing system.
If wonder if I’ll lose access to the tools if I cancel my monthly membership?
It does seem funny that they’d bump up the monthly price that much for essentially the same product. I guess the people who made it into the first launch will feel a lot better about it.
A lot of confusion, though, which is odd for such a mature product from well-known IMers. I’d be curious to know what the attrition rate will be after the first 30 days, though of course no one will ever tell us…
Eric
I think there’s going to be quite a few surprised people when they get charged $97 the first time. They’re doing a loss leader here. Give away a course that they previously sold, get the credit card info by saying the person has to pay for a DVD. (this is the year 2009 and DVD’s via snail mail is not necessary when they could have just posted the video online, BUT if they did that they wouldn’t have your credit card info and you wouldn’t be signed up to the $97 per month club.)
I do have to hand it to Anik, he’s a great marketer and I think Amit knows what he’s doing, but it’ll be interesting to start hearing the grumbles a month from now…
Eric,
Thanks for such an honest, yet thorough review… well, as thorough as you could be without ‘Inner Circle’ access, as was promised.
If I can get through the payment process, I think it’s worth it just for getting the DVDs. Will give it a go.
Cheers.
I sent in a support ticket as well regarding why the forum is not open until after 1-month … no word back yet.
I’m sure they are swamped and I’ll be surprised if it ever gets answered.
A person who signed up during the last launch of $27.97/month said the forum is pretty much a waste and wouldn’t be worth the $97/month fee.
They only stay on because of the monthly webinars and new training modules.
So far from what I’ve seen it’s worth the $6.97 price tag for the given material but I won’t be renewing the $97/month.
Hello Eric and your blog readers..
First of all thank you Eric for an objective review (from someone who actually bought into and looked at the offer) which is a refreshing change!
I am another one of the $29.99 per month PPC Classroom subscribers from a previous launch in October 2008.
I am also very confused…I can read the forums but they are quite empty to be honest. There is a section in the forum called ‘success stories’ which I thought would be quite interesting reading – but it’s very quiet and the only recent posts are some asking where are all the success stories! This is a bit of a contrast to the dozens of emails I have been blasted with in the past week or two claiming “PPC Classroom students are now making over $4,234,789 a Year” etc..
The modules are fine but I have yet to be convinced of the long term value of PPC classroom given the monthly fee.
A few people in the Warrior Forum (who were on the $30 monthly package) also complained about being “neglected” compared to the higher VIP level (or whatever it’s called) subscribers.
Does the current offer mean that if you cancel the $97 per month deal you still get free access to what all the $29.99 a month people are paying for? Again – I am confused by all this!
As Isobel says above “It’s all a bit confusing really. I’m not convinced that people paying $97 a month are going to get any more than those of us paying $29.99.”
And as Christopher says – support tickets go unanswered. Wether I am paying $30 a month or nearly $100 a month, as a paying customer I do at the very least expect an answer to my queries…
In the mid October 08 launch I was also promised all these ‘bonuses’ by PPC classroom but got none of them!
Quote from PPC classroom email October 2008:
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1. Affiliatextreme – Mark Ling ($197)
2. AffiliateUprising & HexaTrack – Amish Shah ($2,000)
3. Premium NicheBot – Jim Morris ($382)
4. Google Cash v2 – Chris Carpenter ($67)
5. SECRET COURSE – Andre Chaperon ($497)
6. Keyword Butler – MindValley Team ($147)
7. SpeedPPC – Jay Stockwell ($397)
8. Negative Keyword Smackdown – Mark Roth ($247)
9. LIVE PPC Event – Howie Schwartz ($1,000)
You get ALL of those, just for TRYING PPC Classroom 2.0…
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Well, I got none of them! (Unless I missed some secret section of the PPC Classroom website!)
Unlike you Eric, Anik from PPC classroom also promotes some products which he has clearly not even looked at – for example the Yahoo Cash 4 idiots ebook which I bought after he recommended it to his mailing list – but it was garbage. If you read the reviews here you will see that it’s not just me who thought it was rubbish:
http://www.warriorforum.com/internet-marketing-product-reviews-ratings/32292-yahoo-cash-4-idiots.html
Anyway, enough rambling from me and thanks for your honest and helpful reviews Eric.
P.S: Isobel what were the bonuses that made you get the dvd even though you are already a PPC classroom member? And were they worth it? Just curious. John.
John, thank you for your description of the initial launch. I’m really surprised by this.
I’m glad you find my reviews helpful. As a way of making money, though, I wouldn’t recommend you go this way!
Eric
hi,ERIC
Thanks for the review.I want to know something though,in fact i live in montreal and i was wondering if it was possible to join ppc classroom 2(basic + inner circle) with a debit card.your response will be really appreciated.thanks a lot and sorry for my “not so good” english.
It’s credit cards only as far as I can tell.
Eric
Christopher, Isobel and John:
As existing PPC Classroom members, can I ask you how well you’ve been doing with PPC? Has the course helped? Are you making money? I think that’s what everyone here really wants to know…
Eric
I have seen a lot of this program. So hard to believe who’s telling the truth. Are the strategies the same with the others. What is the advantage of PPC Classroom 2.0?
I sent in a support ticket as well regarding why the forum is not open until after 1-month … no word back yet.
I’m sure they are swamped and I’ll be surprised if it ever gets answered.
A person who signed up during the last launch of $27.97/month said the forum is pretty much a waste and wouldn’t be worth the $97/month fee.
They only stay on because of the monthly webinars and new training modules.
So far from what I’ve seen it’s worth the $6.97 price tag for the given material but I won’t be renewing the $97/month
Thank you for this useful review.
I am looking forward to test it soon