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		<title>By: Rich</title>
		<link>http://www.memwg.com/merry-christmas-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-2315</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 01:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, thanks for the kind words. Iâ€™ve worked with computers for 30 years, with customer service most of that time. I do know that if you are upfront with customers and tell them ahead of time a deadline wonâ€™t be made, 90% of them will be glad they are at least kept in the loop, though they may be unhappy about the delay. If you arenâ€™t upfront with them and wait until after a deadline to tell them about your problems, 90% WONâ€™T be happy with you keeping them in the dark like that. That is where my unhappiness lies.

While I am here, I donâ€™t like this â€œletâ€™s take our ball and go homeâ€ attitude Zeila and Mo are showing. I would think theyâ€™d be apologetic about the delay and their lack of communication, but instead if we dare to be upset about it (at least in this blog), then they threaten to call the whole thing off, they can do whatever they want and the heck with everyone else. I think this type of attitude should be kept in mind when it comes to future support for this product. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, thanks for the kind words. Iâ€™ve worked with computers for 30 years, with customer service most of that time. I do know that if you are upfront with customers and tell them ahead of time a deadline wonâ€™t be made, 90% of them will be glad they are at least kept in the loop, though they may be unhappy about the delay. If you arenâ€™t upfront with them and wait until after a deadline to tell them about your problems, 90% WONâ€™T be happy with you keeping them in the dark like that. That is where my unhappiness lies.</p>
<p>While I am here, I donâ€™t like this â€œletâ€™s take our ball and go homeâ€ attitude Zeila and Mo are showing. I would think theyâ€™d be apologetic about the delay and their lack of communication, but instead if we dare to be upset about it (at least in this blog), then they threaten to call the whole thing off, they can do whatever they want and the heck with everyone else. I think this type of attitude should be kept in mind when it comes to future support for this product. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Starr --- ROI Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.memwg.com/merry-christmas-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-2310</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Starr --- ROI Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 22:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Rich,

Thanks for writing the way I should have written, you said it very well.  Just to explain something here, I used to be a project manager for a living.  My office devloped hundreds of significant size software products.  On some I was the lead, on others I was the worker bee helping my boss lead.

Did we ever fail to meet deadlines?  Of course we did!  Like everyone else writing here we were humans ... and software is software.  But I&#039;ll tell you one thing, in the 15 years I worked for that office we _never_ did ...

We never, ever, announced a delivery date on a major holiday then waited until after that holiday to announce we had fallen behind.  That would have been just plain rude and tantamount to treating our customers, the reason for our being, as dirt.

All our products were outsourced ... we had no programmers on staff and contracted out all the development work.  Did our contract members of the team sometimes fail to deliver as needed?  of course they did.  But we worked as a team and we never, ever tried to shift the blame to them, publicly.  

There was one office, us, who had the responsibility ... internal schedule slips, bickering, even &quot;firing&quot; of contractors when on behind the scenes ... never in front of our clients ... because we certainly got the credit for our team&#039;s successes, so it&#039;s only proper that we took the blame for our team&#039;s failures.

This has turned into a very good discussion and object lesson for those who plan to contract out projects of significance.

Rule One .. bad news is not wine, it does not improve with age.  Communicate with those expecting of you on a _timely_ basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Rich,</p>
<p>Thanks for writing the way I should have written, you said it very well.  Just to explain something here, I used to be a project manager for a living.  My office devloped hundreds of significant size software products.  On some I was the lead, on others I was the worker bee helping my boss lead.</p>
<p>Did we ever fail to meet deadlines?  Of course we did!  Like everyone else writing here we were humans &#8230; and software is software.  But I&#8217;ll tell you one thing, in the 15 years I worked for that office we _never_ did &#8230;</p>
<p>We never, ever, announced a delivery date on a major holiday then waited until after that holiday to announce we had fallen behind.  That would have been just plain rude and tantamount to treating our customers, the reason for our being, as dirt.</p>
<p>All our products were outsourced &#8230; we had no programmers on staff and contracted out all the development work.  Did our contract members of the team sometimes fail to deliver as needed?  of course they did.  But we worked as a team and we never, ever tried to shift the blame to them, publicly.  </p>
<p>There was one office, us, who had the responsibility &#8230; internal schedule slips, bickering, even &#8220;firing&#8221; of contractors when on behind the scenes &#8230; never in front of our clients &#8230; because we certainly got the credit for our team&#8217;s successes, so it&#8217;s only proper that we took the blame for our team&#8217;s failures.</p>
<p>This has turned into a very good discussion and object lesson for those who plan to contract out projects of significance.</p>
<p>Rule One .. bad news is not wine, it does not improve with age.  Communicate with those expecting of you on a _timely_ basis.</p>
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		<title>By: Eman</title>
		<link>http://www.memwg.com/merry-christmas-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-2301</link>
		<dc:creator>Eman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) Unrealistic Expectations
2) Wishful Thinking
3) Overly Optimistic Schedules
4) Insufficient Planning
5) Probably Contractor Failure
6) Probably Requirements Gold-Plating
7) Probably Developer Gold-Plating

In other words, &quot;Classic Mistakes&quot;.

Z&amp;M, don&#039;t tarnish your names and your country&#039;s name any further. Deliver as promise or go back underground as before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) Unrealistic Expectations<br />
2) Wishful Thinking<br />
3) Overly Optimistic Schedules<br />
4) Insufficient Planning<br />
5) Probably Contractor Failure<br />
6) Probably Requirements Gold-Plating<br />
7) Probably Developer Gold-Plating</p>
<p>In other words, &#8220;Classic Mistakes&#8221;.</p>
<p>Z&amp;M, don&#8217;t tarnish your names and your country&#8217;s name any further. Deliver as promise or go back underground as before.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
		<link>http://www.memwg.com/merry-christmas-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-2298</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 15:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do understand that problems can occur with outsourcing or whatever. But it bothered me greatly yesterday that I wasted my time on Christmas Day, waiting for the release of the product, that was so hyped by Eric and the Rich&#039;s, and not reading until the next day that the release is delayed until whenever. I don&#039;t see why a statement could have been released on say the 22nd or 23rd, saying there will be a delay in the release, rather than waiting till AFTER the release time to say anything. 

That&#039;s like if I invited someone to a Christmas party, and then they came and my door is locked and I&#039;m not home. Then I call them all the next day and said &quot;Sorry, I had to cancel because I didn&#039;t like the caterers&#039; prices.&quot; Would anyone like that?

I was so looking forward to the release and so it was a letdown to me that it didn&#039;t happen yesterday, and I didn&#039;t get notified about it till today. As I said, I understand stuff happens, and I am still looking forward to its release to ALL of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do understand that problems can occur with outsourcing or whatever. But it bothered me greatly yesterday that I wasted my time on Christmas Day, waiting for the release of the product, that was so hyped by Eric and the Rich&#8217;s, and not reading until the next day that the release is delayed until whenever. I don&#8217;t see why a statement could have been released on say the 22nd or 23rd, saying there will be a delay in the release, rather than waiting till AFTER the release time to say anything. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s like if I invited someone to a Christmas party, and then they came and my door is locked and I&#8217;m not home. Then I call them all the next day and said &#8220;Sorry, I had to cancel because I didn&#8217;t like the caterers&#8217; prices.&#8221; Would anyone like that?</p>
<p>I was so looking forward to the release and so it was a letdown to me that it didn&#8217;t happen yesterday, and I didn&#8217;t get notified about it till today. As I said, I understand stuff happens, and I am still looking forward to its release to ALL of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Zeila and Mo Rich</title>
		<link>http://www.memwg.com/merry-christmas-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-2295</link>
		<dc:creator>Zeila and Mo Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 10:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,
how many times have you wanted to launch something so big, that it would many people rich?

If the answer is at least one, then please keep talking.

We don&#039;t need the money from AR, and we can choose to sell it to anyone we wish. As it is, we promised we will launch, and we did. But just not to everyone.

We have accepted a few more people to have access to AR just awhile ago.

Be Well,
Mo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,<br />
how many times have you wanted to launch something so big, that it would many people rich?</p>
<p>If the answer is at least one, then please keep talking.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t need the money from AR, and we can choose to sell it to anyone we wish. As it is, we promised we will launch, and we did. But just not to everyone.</p>
<p>We have accepted a few more people to have access to AR just awhile ago.</p>
<p>Be Well,<br />
Mo</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Starr --- ROI Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.memwg.com/merry-christmas-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-2293</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Starr --- ROI Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 06:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not really about &quot;belief&quot;, Zelia, it is, as I&#039;ll state again, a matter of actions speaking louder than words ... facts of empty promises, not my beliefs.  Be well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not really about &#8220;belief&#8221;, Zelia, it is, as I&#8217;ll state again, a matter of actions speaking louder than words &#8230; facts of empty promises, not my beliefs.  Be well.</p>
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		<title>By: Zeila and Mo Rich</title>
		<link>http://www.memwg.com/merry-christmas-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-2292</link>
		<dc:creator>Zeila and Mo Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 06:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,
believe what you may.

Zeila</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,<br />
believe what you may.</p>
<p>Zeila</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Starr --- ROI Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.memwg.com/merry-christmas-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-2290</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Starr --- ROI Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 04:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, the plot thickens.  I wrote Eric privately a few days ago about my dissatisfaction with this runaway train he&#039;s hooked himself up with.  I&#039;ve bought a book from Eric in the past and used software from him before, so he&#039;s a known quantity ... and I consider him a friend ... he&#039;s never cluttered my mailbox with this wait for weeks and weeks hype, only to fail to deliver as promised.

Silly me, I thought the reason for waiting weeks and weeks was to finish the product and do the testing ... not to wait until the announced release date arrived and _then_ announce the course materials were not done right and (apparently) testing hadn&#039;t been completed.

I know the scarcity method of marketing brings proven results but that doesn&#039;t mean I like being used as a pawn in it.  As we say in Colorado, this is not my first rodeo, I can see through the unseemly hype ... and I wonder if Z&amp;M have fallen into the trap of believing their own marketing?

I am interested in trying out a piece of software that makes finding high paying keywords and building a site around them easy ... I am not interested in the rest of this manipulative &quot;ballyhoo&quot; ... Zelia got pretty offended in the past when I termed their &quot;come ons&quot; &quot;crappola&quot;, but when you promise, promise, promise and then aren&#039;t ready to deliver, what other word actually fits?  (nothing personal, the actions speak louder than the words).

The true formula for internet success is, under promise and over deliver ... this program certainly seems to have it backwards, or so Dave opines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, the plot thickens.  I wrote Eric privately a few days ago about my dissatisfaction with this runaway train he&#8217;s hooked himself up with.  I&#8217;ve bought a book from Eric in the past and used software from him before, so he&#8217;s a known quantity &#8230; and I consider him a friend &#8230; he&#8217;s never cluttered my mailbox with this wait for weeks and weeks hype, only to fail to deliver as promised.</p>
<p>Silly me, I thought the reason for waiting weeks and weeks was to finish the product and do the testing &#8230; not to wait until the announced release date arrived and _then_ announce the course materials were not done right and (apparently) testing hadn&#8217;t been completed.</p>
<p>I know the scarcity method of marketing brings proven results but that doesn&#8217;t mean I like being used as a pawn in it.  As we say in Colorado, this is not my first rodeo, I can see through the unseemly hype &#8230; and I wonder if Z&amp;M have fallen into the trap of believing their own marketing?</p>
<p>I am interested in trying out a piece of software that makes finding high paying keywords and building a site around them easy &#8230; I am not interested in the rest of this manipulative &#8220;ballyhoo&#8221; &#8230; Zelia got pretty offended in the past when I termed their &#8220;come ons&#8221; &#8220;crappola&#8221;, but when you promise, promise, promise and then aren&#8217;t ready to deliver, what other word actually fits?  (nothing personal, the actions speak louder than the words).</p>
<p>The true formula for internet success is, under promise and over deliver &#8230; this program certainly seems to have it backwards, or so Dave opines.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Giguere</title>
		<link>http://www.memwg.com/merry-christmas-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-2289</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Giguere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 04:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The software is mine, so yes, I could release it separately. In fact, I did make an earlier version (PLRSiteBuilder) available for sale briefly to people on my mailing lists. But I have no plans currently to release it separately. I guess everyone will just have to be patient a bit longer. (And that includes me!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The software is mine, so yes, I could release it separately. In fact, I did make an earlier version (PLRSiteBuilder) available for sale briefly to people on my mailing lists. But I have no plans currently to release it separately. I guess everyone will just have to be patient a bit longer. (And that includes me!)</p>
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		<title>By: Zeila and Mo Rich</title>
		<link>http://www.memwg.com/merry-christmas-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-2288</link>
		<dc:creator>Zeila and Mo Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 04:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kim,
you are missing the point. Eric, please let her buy the software if she wants to.
There are many software out there that can help you generate millions of AdSense websites. But the question you need to ask is, are you going to make money from these websites?

We didn&#039;t use any software for our websites, we outsourced the development to companies in India mostly. But what we did more importantly to bring traffic to the websites, again and again, was more important.

But good luck with that. We wish you all the best.

Scott,
we are so tight right now managing the testers, so we are not ready to accept more testers.

I believe the outsourcers are now ready to start delivering again. We should be able to have the hard launch before 2008. Fingers crossed.

Zeila and Mo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kim,<br />
you are missing the point. Eric, please let her buy the software if she wants to.<br />
There are many software out there that can help you generate millions of AdSense websites. But the question you need to ask is, are you going to make money from these websites?</p>
<p>We didn&#8217;t use any software for our websites, we outsourced the development to companies in India mostly. But what we did more importantly to bring traffic to the websites, again and again, was more important.</p>
<p>But good luck with that. We wish you all the best.</p>
<p>Scott,<br />
we are so tight right now managing the testers, so we are not ready to accept more testers.</p>
<p>I believe the outsourcers are now ready to start delivering again. We should be able to have the hard launch before 2008. Fingers crossed.</p>
<p>Zeila and Mo</p>
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